In a series of exchanges, I have come to realize that Indians are actively defending Bharat Varma. Will they still defend him after these videos is the million dollar question.
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Please let us know what you find so offensive about Bharat Verma compared to zaid hamid, the self styled defence analyst.
Bharat Verma's opinions are echoed by the entire civilised world whereas zaid claims the entire world is opposing India's stand. Just see for yourself who is right and who is wrong unless you also subscribe to Zaid's thinking that the whole world is "PAKISTAN"
suit yourself...
By the way whole world is not India too
I even am skeptical if the world knows Varma
I agree with you that the world may not be knowing Bharat Verma. I would go a step further to say that views expressed by him are not the official view of the Indian Government. Yet when he speaks about the Pakistan's state of affairs and its vulnerabilities, he is not alone in making that statement. Why is US pumping in billions into Pakistan? It is only to postpone bankruptsy of that country. Instead of using that money for economic development of the country, your akas are busy constructing islamic bombs. You have always wanted to equate your terms with India. Why not do that by improving your economy? Instead of that you are busy picking holes in India's coat aka Zaid Ahmed about atrocities on muslims, christians etc. This happens everywhere in the world. Does this not happen in your country? In England and everywhere? Does this mean that those respective Governments are sponsoring those acts? Your Zaid is even preparing to send terrorists to India to punish India for these acts. Are you being sensible? These utterances of Zaid are all music to your ears. When Bharat Verma calls you a failed State, tears well up in your eyes.
Bandar ko daru pilao aur haath mein ek talwar do. This is the condition of Pakistan. By doing India bashing and sending terrorists to India and then disowning them does not help. Popular saying has that the cat closes its eys when drinking milk thinking that the people can't see it drinking milk. But this can't be possible. Give up the ostrich-like attitude and accept the hands of friendship from India.If you are good to your neighbours, they would also be good to you.
Far from Bharat Verma's theory, we in India feel that strong Pakistan is always safer for India. Imagine the nuclear assets passing down to the hands of militants in Pakistan! We wish to see the civilian Government to get hold of things and the Paki army only to defend the country's borders and not to train and send terrorists into other countries hoping that the likes of Zaid Ahmed are always there to prove that they did not do that.
well said, Honest.
Hey check out the vidoes on youtube of 'kashmiri militants' in indian custody during kargil war telling their army nos, their unit nos and their home addresses in pakistan. hey can you please post zaid intelligent anlyses on how the whole thing was a setup by BJP to win general electons in india?
some help - one of the POWs in the videos seems to have a hindu nose and one has his eyes covered - something that was done by Gandhari in mahabharat - a hindu epic. i think this is enuf evidence :)
hey sachin
please dont make zaid wiser.
Suggest read this
http://www.rediff.com/news/2008/dec/19mumterror-kasab-belongs-to-pakistan-says-sharif.htm
Also please don't forget to read the readers' comments
"The Real Face of Pakistan?"
This comment from Danny would make an interesting reading
Poor Sharif
by Danny on Dec 20, 2008 12:42 AM Permalink | Hide replies
has no shame to be misruled by the army for most of its post independance years.
it has no shame for 90000 prisoners of war and then doing a la Kargil
it has no shame in sending its own PMs into exile
it has no shame in hanging its PM
it has no shame in carrying out and supporting Terrorism and all the while ask for Dignity!???
It has no shame that its nuclear scientists were thieves who stole designs from foreign nations
it has no shame selling nuclear technology scandelsteinously
it has no shame in giving way part of Kashmir to China and yet talk of Kashmir being part Pakistan
it has no shame accepting money from west to fight what it is morally bound to do
it has no shame in harbouring the likes of Dawoods and Masoods
Pakistan is just what a nation shouldnt be.
Pakistan is Afghan rapist
it does not claim its own as its citizen inspite of creating such monsters itself.
it did not claim its Kargil dead and Indian soldiers had to give the porkistani soldiers a burial
it does not accept the Kasabs although conivingly nurtures such ruthless terrorist
it did not even deservew the handing over of 90000 POWs from India
Wow a pretty long rant!!
I am lost for words...
Does India have any shame when its minister orders a massacre in its own terrtory..
Where was the shame when pregnant muslim women's bellies were cut open
Dont talk to me about shmae... it is enough shameful that this comes from an Indian
Ahmed Hasan, Real Face of Zaid Hamid?
ahmed hassan,
"Does India have any shame when its minister orders a massacre in its own terrtory.."
Are you referring to gujarat? if so, why are you not talking about the massacre done by muslims. They burnt hindus who were returning from a pilgrimage. i am not justifying the massacre. but why are you keeping quiet about what happened to hindus? if hindus burnt people returning from haj, what would have happened? i have been reading your posts for some time now..you always seem to be finding or at-least trying to find fault with people in india. i am from south of india and have never seen muslims having any issues there..i had muslim, christian friends and religion was never an issue.
i understand there"ll be some exceptions but tell me, how are hindus treated in pakistan?
Your newspaper Dawn confirmed kasab is from pakistan. Why is the government still not accepting it? India and pakistan need to unite against terrorism.
"Does India have any shame when its minister orders a massacre in its own terrtory.."
we are ashamed of the gujarat riots, have no doubts abt it. but abt the CM ordering it, an enquiry commission headed by a (parsi btw) judge has said that no such collusion existed between the govt and the rioters. some police have been charged of failing their duties and there have been many many convictions (pls look up with an open mind). is it enuf? i don't think so, we have a huge issue of convictions and law enforcement but things are improving. we've had more convictions in gujarat riots case than say the delhi anti sikh riots or the mumbai riots on 1991.
pointing out gujarat is all u can do when confromted with the multiple failures of ur great state? how many of ur officers have been convicted for 1971??? pakistan has become the laughing stock of the world and a grave threat to the world not because of us evil hindus. its because of ur hatred of the evil hindus. this is what u r teaching ur innocent kids in schools, god knows what in madrassas! sometime write a post on these 'root causes of terrorism' too!!!
http://www.sdpi.org/whats_new/reporton/State%20of%20Curr&TextBooks.pdf
"i am not justifying the massacre. but why are you keeping quiet about what happened to hindus? if hindus burnt people returning from haj, what would have happened?"
Try your luck. but do not press too hard. Don't talk in the air give references. A little free lesson to make you a better Indian.
"we are ashamed of the gujarat riots, have no doubts abt it. "
It is a nice change though, i appreciate it. However, try to channelize your energy putting that insane man to trial.
"pointing out gujarat is all u can do when confromted with the multiple failures of ur great state? how many of ur officers have been convicted for 1971???"
Last time I read about it the concerned person was hanged for treason.
Anyway
"its because of ur hatred of the evil hindus. this is what u r teaching ur innocent kids in schools, god knows what in madrassas! sometime write a post on these 'root causes of terrorism' too!!!"
1:A little piece of advice, do read the whole text and digest it without bias. Summary it does not in any way suggest that it is propogating hate.
2:Do think about the problems you have: Biases in Gujrat Textbooks Gujarat is a border state. Its land and sea boundaries touch the boundaries of Pakistan which is like a den of terrorism http://www.indiatogether.org/2007/feb/edu-gujtexts.htm
3:"evil hindus" yes the like of modi we hate very much. But not all.
4:Beware of Propaganda: Some thing for you.
"Eighty-per cent of the madrasas, which are not controlled by the fundamentalist organisations, mostly give religious education and no military training. Some of them even teach general subjects such as English, Urdu, Pakistani history, general science and even computer science."
http://www.southasiaanalysis.org/%5Cpapers15%5Cpaper1487.html
Also read this too
http://emptiness-forever.blogspot.com/2008/07/karachi-kids-another-lie-uncovered.html
"Eighty-per cent of the madrasas, which are not controlled by the fundamentalist organisations, mostly give religious education and no military training. Some of them even teach general subjects such as English, Urdu, Pakistani history, general science and even computer science."
The lawyer was presenting the eye witnesses in case of a theft. He presented two eye witnesses who actually saw the crime being committed.
'Wait,' said the defence lawyer. 'I can produce 15 witnesses who did not see the crime being committed!'
Ha ha ha I am laughing now.
"Try your luck. but do not press too hard. Don't talk in the air give references. A little free lesson to make you a better Indian. "
Can u really be so naive? This was a hypothetical question. Far from trying to understand his statement, you are right away trying to challenge him to do that. Did he say he was going to do that?
What did you do when the Gujarat massacre happened?
"It is a nice change though, i appreciate it."
Nice u appreciated it, strangely though. Do you have some regrets for what your fellow pakis did in Mumbai?
For you it is just "Kasab....a Pakistani?......I don't think so.
"However, try to channelize your energy putting that insane man to trial. "
A piece of advice. Please don't try to be a judge in Pakistan. Kayani might sack u and place u under house arrest. Zardari won't try to reinstate you.
"Last time I read about it the concerned person was hanged for treason."
Oh, really? Have Pakis become sane?
"1:A little piece of advice, do read the whole text and digest it without bias. Summary it does not in any way suggest that it is propogating hate"
Oh, I did it, carefully. It only spews venom on India and Hindus. Trying only to stupefy the dull Pakis with slow poison. Teaching them what is not history. exhorting the students to speak truth and pushing grotesque lies into their head and calling it truth. In effect, prevailing upon the students to do unislamic things. Teaching jehad in wrong context. Spreading religious hatred. Making them accept the picture of slit throat of a goat as a way of life. In other words, glorifying violence. Trying to give them wrong identity as a nationals of 900 year old civilisation whereas the nation came into existence only 60 years ago, that too with the help of a converted Gujarathi Hindu. Teaching them that the post partition violence was one sided and committed by only hindus and sikhs and keeping them totally in the dark about the massacres by the Muslim devils and not mentioning to them about the "rape of Rawalpindi" Making them believe that India came on knees during 1965 war and begged of the UNSC to stop Pakistan from advancing.(perhaps Ayyub Khan stepped down soon after war because he wanted to go on Haj)
"2:Do think about the problems you have: Biases in Gujrat Textbooks Gujarat is a border state. Its land and sea boundaries touch the boundaries of Pakistan which is like a den of terrorism "
Wrong is always wrong. But just invoke the "real Allah" in you. You will soon realise that Modi must also have learnt the knack of distorting the history from
"http://www.sdpi.org/whats_new/reporton/State%20of%20Curr&TextBooks.pdf"
:"evil hindus"
Hey, pot calling kettle black
This is a blog. Please make some useful comments(without bias) rather than resorting to one liners such as "suit yourselves", "a little piece of advice" etc. Also stop putting forth stupid hypotheses. It will be shot down in no time.
Ahmed Hassan.....a mature man?....I don't think so!!!
I do expect you to come out with your true Pakistani colour a la that moron of the defence analyst, the (in)famous Zaid Ahmed.
Ahmed,
""Try your luck. but do not press too hard. Don't talk in the air give references. A little free lesson to make you a better Indian. "
I didn't say that i am planning to do that.Well, i am very much against killing innocent people irrespective of the religion. i feel we all should come out of religion and try to help each other. Terrorist doesn't belong to any religion and they are a common enemy of hindus/muslims. You seemed to be always trying to criticize hindus/indians. Well, i know its your blog and you can write whatever you want. but it"ll be great if you can see both sides.
"I didn't say that i am planning to do that.Well, i am very much against killing innocent people irrespective of the religion. i feel we all should come out of religion and try to help each other."
So do I. But baseless allegations wont do much good, don't you think?
"You seemed to be always trying to criticize hindus/indians. Well, i know its your blog and you can write whatever you want. but it"ll be great if you can see both sides."
Now if you get 3000+ insane comments, full of insults and swears you will also get aggressive, wont you. I have never been anti-Indian or never will but some people keep pushing it.
Things got out of hands after one of your pakis started describing penises. In a fight both parties are presumed right. Taking one sentence out randomly for analysis will not help.
Ahmed,
"Now if you get 3000+ insane comments, full of insults and swears you will also get aggressive, wont you. I have never been anti-Indian or never will but some people keep pushing it."
i understand that. i am sorry about it. i hope everyone(indians,Pakistanis, muslims,hindus) will realize that killing innocent people is not the solution for all the problems we have.
I hope and pray to god that we all will have a peaceful new-year ahead...
Ahmed,
Please take a look at this blog.
http://indiahelps.blogspot.com/
i hope you guys realize that we, indians are not monsters who hate all the muslims in the world. I know a lot of people who try to help when there's a crisis occur. I dont check whether its a muslim or a hindu.
Giving such references are not going to help. They will straightaway go on a denial mode and try to prove that this site has been hosted by Indian RAW
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