Comments on Perpetual Emptiness: Zaid Hamid Vs Bharat Varma

"Poor Pakistanis know nothing about functioning of...

2008-12-27T11:20:00.000+05:30

"Poor Pakistanis know nothing about functioning of democracy. They have never been exposed to that."

Hahaha ... Man you are in denial. I am not going to waste my time here.

"I am convinced Hassan is not interested in exchanging ideas. His only aim is to irritate the other side.

I thought Hassan was similar to Zaid Ahmed. I was wrong. Ten Zaid Ahmeds would make One Ahmed Hassan."

Again 3000+ comments full of swears wont motivate you to keep calm. By the way I have a very good link for you hope you enjoy each and every word of it.

http://www.indianexpress.com/news/mumbai-media-and-war/403453/

Enjoy!

Whatever is the controversy surrounding Antulay, h...

2008-12-23T07:15:00.000+05:30

Whatever is the controversy surrounding Antulay, he did not say Kasab was not from Pakistan. He raised doubts about the ATS officers being sent to particular area and not taj or trident. The government would render clarification today. If BJP has asked for his resignation, this is how democracy functions in any country. To make Hassan understand this, you have to start from the first lesson. Poor Pakistanis know nothing about functioning of democracy. They have never been exposed to that.

Also, Sachin, read what Kuldip Singh Chouhan said elsewhere and stop flogging the dead horse. Likes of Ahmed Hassan have been brought up with teachings that Pakistan existed in the 11th century, Mahatma Gandhi was a Hindu fundamentalist, Muslims did not have right to vote, Pakis helped Indian refugees and Indians raped the paki refugees, 1857 war of independence was Muslims v/s English in which Hindus sided with Britishers, Bangla deshi hindus conspired with India to separate East Pak from West etc.

So much for teaching the same kids about virtues of speaking truth and helping neighbours and saying prayers everyday during their early childhood.

I am convinced Hassan is not interested in exchanging ideas. His only aim is to irritate the other side.

I thought Hassan was similar to Zaid Ahmed. I was wrong. Ten Zaid Ahmeds would make One Ahmed Hassan.

"our president is going around telling everyone th...

2008-12-23T00:36:00.000+05:30

"our president is going around telling everyone that kasab is not from pakistan, urs is."

Antuley was asked by BJP to resign. apparently the party was pretty upset about his comment, interesting.

A probe doesn't matter if you prefer drawing conclusions before the results.

Defective kevlar? what abt it? its not like only h...

2008-12-21T23:31:00.000+05:30

Defective kevlar? what abt it? its not like only his jacket was substandard, the whole police force is using those and its a problem. they are not good enuf against rifles! its a failure but how does it prove he was killed by hindu terrorists?

abt antuley's demand, hello!!! there's already a probe going on, infact two. our president is going around telling everyone that kasab is not from pakistan, urs is.

Dude (honest), Please respond to comments on the r...

2008-12-21T14:33:00.000+05:30

Dude (honest),

Please respond to comments on the relevant website.

I am sure some commonsense does benefit in such situations.

I guess by now you would have learnt from your "Intelligence Failure"

Zulfi Bhutto was also tortured to death and then s...

2008-12-21T09:51:00.000+05:30

Zulfi Bhutto was also tortured to death and then shown as tried and convicted and hanged.

Half of Paki Govt and Military machinery draw their salary for covering the anti humanity actions of the Govt/military.

By the way, Hassan, are you not Zaid Hamid?

"The question is: How can a person such loyalties ...

2008-12-21T09:45:00.000+05:30

"The question is: How can a person such loyalties rise to the rank of Major-General in the Pakistan Army?"

Major General is a big rank. The Pakistani thinkers want the world to believe that with so called anti Pak and anti Islamic tendencies, he could rise to this position? R U suggesting that the selectors in the Pakistani defence were blind, deaf and dumb?

Sorry state of affairs. And the likes of Hassan want to wield these articles as a proof of innocense.

This forum is only an extension of Paki nefarious design to glorify all the ills of Pakistan and scavenging the Indian territory for rotten news.

Final note. The terrorism started in Pakistan way back in 1971. It has started in India a couple of years back. I condemn it. But just look at the other side of it. Don't you think this would not have happened if there was no islamic terrorism?

You missed the part about defected kevlar...and pl...

2008-12-21T03:55:00.000+05:30

You missed the part about defected kevlar...

and please keep the rant to the point... its enough that I have to go through the trouble of reading the comments irrelevant to the discussion.

Here is something for the "losers" (as sachin puts it)

http://www.pro-pakistan.com/2008/12/15/general-amir-faisal-alavi-letter-to-general-kiyani/
http://pkpolitics.com/2008/12/16/the-story-of-major-general-faisal-alavi/

Hint: Read the comments

Bonus: Dodge THis
http://www.hindustantimes.com/StoryPage/StoryPage.aspx?sectionName=HomePage&id=cd286de2-7e14-4eb1-b9a4-18044848377f&MatchID1=4856&TeamID1=6&TeamID2=2&MatchType1=1&SeriesID1=1223&MatchID2=4873&TeamID3=1&TeamID4=3&MatchType2=1&SeriesID2=1229&PrimaryID=4856&Headline=Congress+defers+decision+on+Antulay
"What is wrong in his (Antulay's) statement? Antulay has been misreported. All he has said the matter should be investigated as to who ordered him (Karkare) to go there (Cama Hospital) instead of the Taj and Trident hotels where the action was centred," said Singh.

"But tell me why the two super cops were murdered ...

2008-12-20T01:15:00.000+05:30

"But tell me why the two super cops were murdered in Mumbai. and one of them was wearing a defected kevlar"

dude, in all 5 policemen died at one spot, in vijay salaskar's jeep, the two 'supercops' were in the jeep. one policeman survived by feigning death when he was injured. he was in the car and he has given eye witness account. so have many other eyewitnesses and mumbai police (not RAW or any political wing but a police force that lost 16 men) have said there is no reason to believe that there is any conspiracy, it was just bad luck that salaskar's jeep came under direct automatic weapon fire from a short distance. there's no evidence or circumstances to suggest that the 'supercops' (WTF is that???) were killed in a conspiracy. yet u keep harping on it a la zaid. its just guesswork to promote a conspiracy theory - some analyses - some 'analysts'!!!

in alavi's case, pls read his letter he gave to a brit reporter two days before he was killed. its published in a brit newspaper. of course u don't know - zaid is still woking on how shivsena killed him in pakistan in a riot!

losers.

I think u should make a list of what u dont agree ...

2008-12-18T19:16:00.000+05:30

I think u should make a list of what u dont agree of Zaid's statement rather than hiding behind your alibi.

Patrolling of the coast is done by the coast guards and not the Indian Navy. Also, 4000 odd trawlers and boats are around and it may be possible to comb the entire region without harrassing the fishermen folk should be possible only in Pakistan. We are a democratic country in true sense of the term. We can not operate the lal masjid way.

Thanks for posting the link for Bharat verma's interview. Indeed a good post. I liked the way Bharat Verma's 'NO Nonsense' attitude. I want to see the remaining part of the interview too. Bharat Verma was upright in saying that he did not agree with the Prime Minister. Compare his attitude with Zaid. If Zardari were to make such a statement, Zaid would have strained all his nerves to say how Mr Zardari was right in expecting the other country's intelligence chief visiting his country....and would have been on the denial mode minutes after Zardari backtracked his earlier statement.

Was Bharat Verma reckless really? Just see his level of maturity and his acumen that he showed to steer clear of the leading questions that your so called anchor was subjecting him to. And, compare him with your Zaid of a defence analyst. He speaks like a mouth piece of LET. He even went to the extent of promising to send so called jehadi terrorists into India to avenge Bangla Desh. He, and a defence analyst? Even Nawaz Sharif did not dare to admit this when Kargil had actually happened. Just look at the applause Zaid is receiving in the blogs and forums! Are Pakis so much starved of common sense?

"But tell me why the two super cops were murdered in Mumbai. and one of them was wearing a defected kevlar"

You think supercops have a halo behind their head to differentiate them from the "killable " victims? They believed in leading from the front. And they faced first bullets. THEY WERE NOT GEN NIAZIS to rape bangla women first and then surrender like cowards.

"Seriously, I don t know what alavi or why he was murdered."

I am not surprised. You may not even now be knowing Paki Army Capt Shah Nawaz who fought for your country and laid down his life. Don't worry. We have given him a funeral befitting his chivalry. We have saluted him for we knew he fought for his country, though his country did not recognise his dead body.

Please see bharat varma here just after Mumbai Att...

2008-12-18T00:40:00.000+05:30

Please see bharat varma here just after Mumbai Attacks

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F5osS2dEi84

Alavi'sSeriously, I don t know what alavi or why h...

2008-12-18T00:31:00.000+05:30

Alavi's

Seriously, I don t know what alavi or why he was murdered.

But tell me why the two super cops were murdered in Mumbai. and one of them was wearing a defected kevlar.

Compare with Capt Mulla of Indian Navy (INS Khukri). He went down with the ship upholding the bright traditions of the Navy.

Did I not say that these were the views of Zaid Hamid himself.

Anyway dont you think it is a bit too early to talk about the bravery of Indian Navy? Given the recent problem of "intelligence failure"

I will show you another of Bharat Varma's clips you decide then

keep laughing mate. maybe u have some theory abt a...

2008-12-17T23:19:00.000+05:30

keep laughing mate. maybe u have some theory abt alavi's murder involving hindu zionists or maybe u r saying there is no major general alavi :) or the kafir scribe may have made up his letter or some such. we know how the mind of ur ilk works - just as the mullah directs it :)

10/10 for complete submission. ur religious education is complete.

Bharat Verma did well to corner that joker of Zaid...

2008-12-17T17:03:00.000+05:30

Bharat Verma did well to corner that joker of Zaid Hamid, who appeared to be running all around the ring to avoid blows.

Bharat should have been more refined in placing the Bangla desh case. India did not cross the East Pakistan borders ONLY because the women were raped by the beasts of the Paki Army. India had a massive influx of East Pakistani refugees who could not have been turned away, and that influx was taxing our economy. US was then the Godfather of Pakistan and turned the deaf ears to Indian concern. Also, what moral authority was left for Pakistan to rule East Pakistan when their army itself indulged in this heinous crime against their own people?

Bharat did well to get that joker around to agree that Pakistan sent their so called mujahideens across the border. Such shameless people.

What 1000 year slavery is that joker talking about? How could he forget the most ignominous defeat inflicted on Pakistan by the valiant Indian Army three times over? Does he remember that Niazi of Paki army? Surrendered alongwith one lac soldiers and still did not shoot himself out of shame.

Compare with Capt Mulla of Indian Navy (INS Khukri). He went down with the ship upholding the bright traditions of the Navy.

Muslims ruled this country because Hindus were too hospitable to them. But why do you forget that every Muslim prince ascended the throne after killing or imprisoning of his father. What a tradition!!

"Why do you need proof against Azmal? So that you ...

2008-12-17T13:38:00.000+05:30

"Why do you need proof against Azmal? So that you can eliminate Azmal's family and hand over the their house to one bloody Qazi and
then claim that Indian intelligence is speaking through its hat?"

Allegations... Allegations!! Start talking some sense for a change. I am still surprised you trust "Indian intelligence" after just 10 people amazingly screwed the whole system.

"Why dont you try to understand what Sachin is say...

2008-12-17T13:35:00.000+05:30

"Why dont you try to understand what Sachin is saying? Do you expect the Indian Govt to arrest everyone you point your finger towards to prove their innocence? Just see who is bullshitting?"

Contradiction!? wow, indians now are starting to eat their words

"yes its hard to believe isn't it that a country catches their own army officer and put him in jail? because in pakistan anyone who even threatens the army gets shot - like major general alavi! keep laughing dude, coz u've nothing to say."

I am laughing... hahahahaha

Oh Ahmed,Why dont you try to understand what Sachi...

2008-12-17T13:14:00.000+05:30

Oh Ahmed,
Why dont you try to understand what Sachin is saying? Do you expect the Indian Govt to arrest everyone you point your finger towards to prove their innocence? Just see who is bullshitting?

Why do you need proof against Azmal? So that you can eliminate Azmal's family and hand over the their house to one bloody Qazi and
then claim that Indian intelligence is speaking through its hat?

Tum hanste raho........muskuratey

raho.....aur hanso......
.............
.............

mera kya jaatha hai,

log tumhen hi paagal kahenge

I am still laughing Sachin... wake up

2008-12-17T10:43:00.000+05:30

I am still laughing Sachin... wake up

"so police there in pakistan only arrest / interro...

2008-12-17T10:40:00.000+05:30

"so police there in pakistan only arrest / interrogate suspects when investigations have concluded / counrt case concluded, sentence given??? stop BS dude"

"stop BS dude" why wasn'y Modi arrested??

"Double standards! has the investigation concluded...

2008-12-17T00:58:00.000+05:30

"Double standards! has the investigation concluded here? or is it impartial?"

so police there in pakistan only arrest / interrogate suspects when investigations have concluded / counrt case concluded, sentence given??? stop BS dude. if pak is really serious (!) then when they know a paki is caught they'd investigate where he was, with whom etc etc, instead they are stuck at their old record - give us proof!

"pl don't forget that purohit has been caught by i...

2008-12-17T00:50:00.000+05:30

"pl don't forget that purohit has been caught by india "

Hahaha... i am still laughing

yes its hard to believe isn't it that a country catches their own army officer and put him in jail? because in pakistan anyone who even threatens the army gets shot - like major general alavi! keep laughing dude, coz u've nothing to say.

yes investigations have not concluded, but purohit is in jail!!! is he not? we did not have to armtwisted by UNSC to do it. pak wants proof - which is BS as even when pakistanis are caugh alive and their father own them they like to make up stories abt wrist bands!!! denial or mid eastern morals? :)

karj chukana hain! maybe he means the 5.5 billion, now that india is a donor at imf!!! ROF!

"how can indian intelligence explain what a pakist...

2008-12-16T11:28:00.000+05:30

"how can indian intelligence explain what a pakistani terrorist is wearing??? we know he's a pakistani, u wud know pakistani mentality better."

You know Indian mentality better. Most Muslims detest adorning hindu symbols in particular. Assuming he was a jihadi, he would want to go to heaven wearing a Safroon Band, or puja band

"Samjhauta blasts? first of all the investigation has not yet conlcuded that purohit was involved. "

Double standards! has the investigation concluded here? or is it impartial?

"pl don't forget that purohit has been caught by india "

Hahaha... i am still laughing

"Now apparently Zaid has come up with a theory that ajmal's real name is amar singh and he's sikh!"

Indian media is an expert at making up theories, dont you think?

Now apparently Zaid has come up with a theory that...

2008-12-16T09:23:00.000+05:30

Now apparently Zaid has come up with a theory that ajmal's real name is amar singh and he's sikh! the true genius soldiers on in the face of facts!!!

has his family been eliminated in pakistan?

also jund reported today that another true pakistani genius a lawyer from islamabad said ajmal was abducted by RAW in nepal in 2006 :) (villagers said he visited faridkot 5 months back). i must say pakis have a weird idea of patroitism -it equals rabid anti indianism! why not do the right thing in the name of patroitism???

"I am waiting for "Indian Intelligence" to explain...

2008-12-16T00:43:00.000+05:30

"I am waiting for "Indian Intelligence" to explain me what the band was for."

how can indian intelligence explain what a pakistani terrorist is wearing??? we know he's a pakistani, u wud know pakistani mentality better. so u tell me why a pakistani terrorist would wear a hindu looking band? or why they claimed to from 'deccan, hyderabad'? :) i think we know :)

Samjhauta blasts? first of all the investigation has not yet conlcuded that purohit was involved. however its perfectly possible that indias allegation may be wrong in one case. however, why blame india when pakistan has been openly dishonest abt this whole business of 'non state actors'?

pl don't forget that purohit has been caught by india - UNSC did not have to force us to do it, we ourselves are discussing his possible role - we are not in a denial mode, pls notice he's been suspended by the army and he'll be tried in a civilian court. how many pak armymen have been caught / tried for their involvement in terrorism? ofcourse none are involved. did u read abt the letter by maj general faisal alavi?

certainly Bharat Varma is no angel, and is no expe...

2008-12-15T11:46:00.000+05:30

certainly Bharat Varma is no angel, and is no expert at hiding empty threats

I suggest you read about Lebnon war of 2006. If you have any grievances or questions or doubts i will be happy to answer them